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Post by KSH on Sat 25 Jun 2016 - 16:56

What's a reasonable payload for 2 adults?

We really like the Autotrail 634 but worried about the weights Sad
The van comes standard at 3500kg but a free upgrade to 3650kg (just a paper chase)

Examples shown below are all with driver and passenger in, 90% tank of fuel but empty water and waste water tanks, 1 gas bottle, solar panel, extra battery and media pack installed



At 3500kg this is worrying Shocked
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At 3650kg it gets a bit better Smile
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Or to throw a spanner in the works we could change our minds and got for the Autotrail 700 which we originally thought about buying till we stepped in the 634 and was both amazed at the size of the lounge and living space, this is on the heavy chassis and gross's at 4250kg
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634 gross weight = 3500kg
634 MIRO = 3230kg
634 Payload = 270kg

634 gross weight = 3650kg
634 MIRO = 3230kg
634 payload = 420kg

700 gross weight = 4250kg
700 MIRO = 3445kg
700 payload = 805kg

We love the 634, why dont they offer this with the heavy chassis  Sad  Sad

It is particularly important that all motorhome customers understand how weights are calculated and how certain weight allowances can change, whilst other weights are fixed.
A. MAXIMUM AUTHORISED WEIGHT The Maximum Authorised Weight (MAW) is exactly what it says, this weight is fixed and is a total weight of the vehicle when fully loaded, it is a weight which should not be exceeded. The vehicle is designed to operate perfectly safely at the MAW, however exceeding this weight may lead to prosecution and your insurance cover being void.
B. MASS IN RUNNING ORDER The mass in running order (MRO) is the unladen weight of a standard vehicle, but this advertised weight includes 75kg for a driver and the weight for the diesel assuming the tank is 90% full and with the freshwater tank filled to its 20 litre travelling level. If the fresh tank is full the MRO will increase accordingly. *Arapaho, Chieftain & Comanche do not have a travel drain facility. Gas bottles - All vehicles have the allocation of 1x13kg gas bottle filled to 90%. There is a provision for a second bottle in the options allowance should customers choose to use it.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A AND B... The difference between A and B is the weight available to you, for the carrying of passengers, personal belongings and the fitting off any optional extras.
Only by consciously reducing the amount of water, fuel and gas carried, can you reduce the MRO and therefore have more load allowance available to carry extra personal belongings or choose to have additional optional equipment fitted. (The weight guide of liquids – 1 litre of liquid = 1 kg)


EDIT -

Just been informed that you can uprate the 634 to 3850kg so this would roughly work out at
634 gross weight = 3850kg
634 MIRO = 3230kg
634 payload = 620kg

But this would involve fitting higher rated rear tyres, air suspension and more than likely going through SVTech for the upgrade
Approx
Tyres - £250
Air Rides - £350
Svtech - £250
Total £850ish

All food for thought and scrambling my head some more Very Happy

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Post by Techno100 on Sun 3 Jul 2016 - 11:32

SVtech are much dearer than £250, I think currently £312 or more 
This is why I used a different company for £142


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Post by KSH on Sun 3 Jul 2016 - 23:02

Yeah, they are £260+ VAT who did you use?

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