A disappointing result for intended route to Spain

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Hi, Baza, Pete and Mark, after researching my proposed route over the Col de Portalet I have had some information from seasoned expert travellers about the route and the time of year we would be going.

The Col is ussually closed from October to May so early April looks like it could be still impassable, I was intending getting the information for the route from a campsite we have frequently used at Saint Yrieix-sur-Charente as from there I could change the route easily to avoid the area, and suggest the route through the Somport tunnel, it's a very pretty route we have used before and actually brings us out on the route we would have originally taken.

So here is what I suggest, still stick with the original route until Saint Yrieix then make enquiries about the road condition and if its closed I will have a backup route ready, or how about you putting forward a route you would like to take and we could go that way, I do want to avoid toll roads as much as possible and I will not be using the Millau bridge, don't mind going down under it but refuse to pay €35 to go across.

So your comments please.

Bob

whistlinggypsy wrote:

grandadbaza wrote:

I did have a go one night and did find some discrepancies, then I thought I would try again when there was less in my system

What navigation system are you using Baza
This is a way of inputting co-ords but I find it too fussy with all them ruddy nos. GPS Co-ordinates: 49.52066745212907 / 6.7412495613098144

When I was trying it out I did it on MS Autoroute and google maps , but as I sais I was a bit
I normal use "all them ruddy nos." on my Tom TOM 720 Truck , but I am sure the settings can be changed to your preference to keep things simple , will have a go today "a Monday" is one of my days of abstinence so it should be a doddle sober

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GPS Co-ordinates: 49.52066745212907 / 6.7412495613098144

You have too much time on your hands Baza inputting all them Nos.

Bob is the photo you have of the Wissant aire an up to date one and google images old as the co ords seem to take you to a field with one M/H in it ?

That's correct Baza, google earth zoomed in at street level is 2009 (dunno know why) but that is where the new entrance to the newly developed site is, google earth maps are 2013 but you lose that with street level viewing

Bob will move on to next one

Who'd like to go now then! ????

Me mate, but cannot because of hospital appointments

We will besea side soon come jion us all welcome

I've got my pills now for the next few months

grandadbaza wrote:

Bob will move on to next one

OK Baza you should see this


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And if you go to Rouen you should see this

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and so on through the whole list.

Won't be there for 7 weeks yet Mick

Yep got that

The cords for that take you to the other side of the river

grandadbaza wrote:

The cords for that take you to the other side of the river

N49° 06' 13" must have done it when the tide was out Baza

Tried that its in a field South of Rouen try this N 49° 26’ 10” E1° 05’29”

Still its only a short swim Baza

I dont mind too much Mark , its just Rina will probably have a moan

Thought I would cross reference all the stops with my All the Aires book , but searched high and low and cant find it

First night stop calais then down to chateaudun num 7 aires book center area total first class incredible village with a large chateau actually in car park then montguyon poitou region number 98 in book on side of sports stadium then oloron ste marie 91 atlantic reg a very secluded site with nice village and on outskirts of mountain range then zaragoza

grandadbaza wrote:

I dont mind too much Mark , its just Rina will probably have a moan

Some of the co-ords are positioned at the roadway too the aire not the actual aire this is because something like the Couhe aire TT will try and take you through a very tight route so I have ignored that and rerouted it too miss any problems, the same goes for Rouen as it takes you to the slipway down to the aire not the exact aire itself.

Just done my list on my TT and they are all with spitting distance from the aire.

Baza are you bringing a laptop to Kieghley (I have not got one now) and we can check all the co-ords together to make certain they are correct.

Affirmative squadron leader

Woke up with fresh mind and now remember where I put my All The Aires book

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First night stop calais then down to chateaudun num 7 aires book center area total first class incredible village with a large chateau actually in car park

Been here twice before Mick and was unable to get on because of parked cars, so went to St Denis a couple miles away, did you get parked up ok as I prefer that aire that the other one.

Update co-ordinates for Spain trip, as said before I will not be stopping at ALL these places they are there for you to choose whichever you like or even somewhere I have not put on

Wissant ------------------------------------------------N 50° 53’11” E 1° 40’20”
Aire

Boulogne-----------------------------------------------N 50° 44’37” E1° 35’51”
Aire

Rouen-------------------------------------------------- N 49° 26’ 06” E1° 05’29”
Riverside parking. Safe. No Facilities

Saint-Denis-les-Ponts------------------------------N48° 03’57” E1° 17’23”
Chateaudun ------------------------------------------N48° 04’17” E1° 19’27”

Vendome---------------------------------------------- N47° 47’28” E1° 04’31”
Aire but campsite may be open

Couhe--------------------------------------------------N46° 17’50” E0° 10’43”
Aire

Saint-Yrieix-sur-Charente------------------------- N 45° 41’10” E0° 08’48”
Campsite but very cheap. Excellent Facilities.

Peyrehorade -------------------------------------- N 43° 32’34” W1° 06’01”
Aire

Oloron-St-Marie------------------------------------- N 43° 11’02” W0° 36’ 31”

There are lots of safe overnight stops along the Aspe Valley
Good stops N43°02’10” W0°36’21” or N43°03’54” W0°36’03”

Vierge d’ Eygon---------------------------------------N42°56’12” W0° 35’25”
Campsite

Accous-------------------------------------------------- N42°58’36” W0°36’20”
Campsite/Aire

Commune D’Urdos---------------------------------- N42°52’54” W0°33’35”
Campsite

Tunnel d’ Somport-----------------------------------N42°49’21” W0°33’32”
Parking just before tunnel

Teruel Dinopolis------------------------------------ N40° 19'57" W1°05'13"
Parking place

Camping MarJal Crevillent------------------------N38°10’39” W0°48’31”


Calais------------Wissant 20kms---12.5m

Boulogne 22kms---13.75m

Rouen 191 kms---118 m

Chateaudun 185 kms---115m

St-Denis-Le-Ponts 2.9kms---1.8m

Vendome 40 kms---25 m

Couhe 193 kms---120 m

Saint-Yrieix-sur-Charente 84 kms---50 m

Peyrehorade 292 kms---181 m

Oloron-Saint-Marie 64 kms---40 m

Vierge d’Eygon 34 kms---21 m

Accous 16.5 kms 10 m

Commune d’Urdos 12 kms 7.5 m

Somport Tunnel 20 kms 12.5 m
The Tunnel is 9 kms /5.6 miles long

Teruel 342 kms---212 m

Crevillent 331 kms---205 m

Calais -----------Somport Tunnel 1114 kms/696 miles

Somport Tunnel------ Crevillent 668 kms/418 miles

Calais------------Crevillent Total 1782 kms/1107miles

Auto Gas Zaragoza----------------- N41°38’02” W0°55’24”

There are two routes from Teruel too Crevillent and I will be taking the scenic one which is only 25mile shorter but takes in the local roads.

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The other route is free Autopista all the way and may suit you better the choice is yours
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Nice one Bob, I'll get the navigator to run through them.

Excellent work squadron leader

Hi fellow travellers, I have altered the co-ords for Saint-Yyieix-sur-Charente slightly because when I checked it on my TT it was routing you down a lane that has barriers on it and there is no access to motorised vehicles, so use the new co-ords, turn left off route de lac and follow your nose straight to the entrance.

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how long are you all out there for?

what are your plans after crevillente?

Hi Frank, we are booked too return on the 9th May but can extend that at will, (don't tell Barb but we will be out longer) depends on how much we like Crevillente and if we decide to split the 4 weeks between there and Guardamar site as I like that site as well.

Was thinking of having some time at Calp, but Ken is running the MHFs meet there again so could with avoiding it while they are there as it will be packed, after that run into France for a meander through some nice countryside using aires and get the train back sometime in May.

Whats your plans

its all weather dependant,i will follow the sun if it means going further south so be it.i want to lose at least 1.5 stone,so lots of exercise for me,and i cant be doing with cold weather while cycling walking etc.i want to go to brittany for a while but i need it to be sunny.

also portugal is very much in my plans.but i will wait and see.you can plan until you cant plan anymore.and it will all go out the window.so i have a few plans,lets see which 1 takes our fancy.we will stay out until margarita gets fed up,then make our way slowly home.i am hoping for at least 3 months:sunny:

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i am hoping for at least 3 months

Would love 3mths Frank but cannot Barb to stay out that long don't know what she is going to do when I go on my full european tour before i pack it all in.

I have been chatting to a new member today (shuggy68 Hugh) who has recently been to the MarJal at Crevillente and he said it was the dogs "doo dahs" very clean lots to do, and the staff are very pleasant and accommodating, fully recommends the place one of the best sites he has been on, so it will not be long now before we are relaxing in style and comfort, something that Barbara is accustomed too.

Great news Bob , cant wait to see for ourselves

Looks & sounds fantastic only 4 weeks to go!!!

The co-ords in BLUE are the ones taken from my NEW "All the Aires in France 4th edition" and you can see they are not a lot out from the original ones just a different format, hope that helps.


Wissant ------------------------------------------------N 50° 53’11” E 1° 40’20”
Aire N50°53.210’ E001°40.224’

Boulogne-----------------------------------------------N 50° 44’37” E1° 35’51”
Aire N50°44.645’ E001°35.842’

Rouen-------------------------------------------------- N 49° 26’ 06” E1° 05’29”
Riverside parking. Safe. No Facilities
N48°04.018’ E001°17.362’
Saint-Denis-les-Ponts------------------------------N48° 03’57” E1° 17’23”
Chateaudun ------------------------------------------N48° 04’17” E1° 19’27”
N48°04.303’ E001°19.453’
Vendome---------------------------------------------- N47° 47’28” E1° 04’31”
Aire but campsite may be open N47.47.478’ E001°04.536’

Couhe--------------------------------------------------N46° 17’50” E0° 10’43”
Aire N46°17.907’ E000°10.705’


Saint-Yrieix-sur-Charente------------------------- N 45° 41’10” E0° 08’48”
Campsite but very cheap. Excellent Facilities.

Peyrehorade -------------------------------------- N 43° 32’34” W1° 06’01”
Aire N43°32.584’ W001°05.996’

Oloron-St-Marie------------------------------------- N 43° 11’02” W0° 36’ 31”
N43°11.032’ W000°36.511’

There are lots of safe overnight stops along the Aspe Valley
Good stops N43°02’10” W0°36’21” or N43°03’54” W0°36’03”

Vierge d’ Eygon---------------------------------------N42°56’12” W0° 35’25”
Campsite

Accous-------------------------------------------------- N42°58’36” W0°36’20”
Campsite/Aire

Commune D’Urdos---------------------------------- N42°52’54” W0°33’35”
Campsite

Tunnel d’ Somport-----------------------------------N42°49’21” W0°33’32”
Parking just before tunnel

Teruel Dinopolis------------------------------------ N40° 19'57" W1°05'13"
Parking place

Camping MarJal Crevillent------------------------N38°10’39” W0°48’31”

Cheers Bob, will get Julie to run through them & save them as she is the ***NAVIGATORRR***

I will try and alter the rest of them later, but if you look on google earth at the original co-ords you can select your own Lat Lon co-ords as they are very close to those I have put down. (does that make sense )

Yep!

Thanks Bob

Hi to all going to Spain, we are in Benidorm at the moment and will stay here (LaTorreta) till at least April 6th. After that not sure, but when are you lot booked onto Marjal, or are you just turning up on the ACSI scheme?
Only asking 'cause we may join you for a week or so.
Everything is weather dependant. We've had a good 1st week, a crappy cold and wet and windy 2nd, an indifferent start to the 3rd but good the last couple of days !
So, when are you off?

regards
Allen & Eileen

Hi Alen & Eileen,
We are planning to arrive on the 8th as far as I can see if all goes to plan, we are using the acsi hope you can make it!! And look forward to meeting you both.

Mark & Julie.

Hi Mark & Julie
April 8th, is that when everyone turns up, and are you all travelling together ?

Allen & Eileen

wints wrote:

Hi Mark & Julie
April 8th, is that when everyone turns up, and are you all travelling together ?

Allen & Eileen

Yes we should all be there on the 8th, tessajoe (Frank & Marg) will be meeting us there on or around the 8th

i wont be there until the 11th.

Yes Allen we are intending travelling together apart from Frank who is taking the more direct route (ferry)

If I'm reading the thread correctly it looks like you're all going on the ACSI scheme. I've got that, would I need to book ?

regards
Allen

i dont think anyone has booked,but if your planning to go over the bank holiday,i would book as it will be very busy.

tessajoe wrote:

i dont think anyone has booked,but if your planning to go over the bank holiday,i would book as it will be very busy.

As we will not be arriving until around 8th or 9th April the major Easter festival ( Semana Santa ) will be long over and the campsite should be back to normal, if you have ever been on a Spanish campsite at Easter you will know what I mean as it's horrendous with noise and thousands of campers everywhere including your pitch. Fabulous if you like that sort of thing, and the processions and street parties are fantastic

You would not get ASCI rates over the Easter period at any campsite, none of us are booking but using the ASCI card and I do believe they will give us a discount if we all arrive and book together, but I cannot work out if that discount will be on top of the ASCI rates or their regular rates and then the discount, and whether it is length of stay dependant.

Baza, can we meet up here on the 2nd at around 12.00hrs then we can go and see if we can get an earlier train, it gives us more time on tuther side to fuel up and do some important shopping (nod nod ) then take a leisurely drive down the coast too Wissant Aire.

I will be in the parking area of the service station, I am stopping at the Drum Inn one mile away.
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