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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Tue 23 Apr 2013 - 22:22 | |
| - KSH wrote:
- 70 in the front? now that I would say is too much
What does the calculator I posted say for your weights? 15" wheels on A class vans with drop down beds! I'll bet Mick has it right | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 18:31 | |
| - KSH wrote:
- Have a play about with the pressure calculator I posted on here Bob
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Thanks for that Ken, sent Cotinental an emai asking correct Psi as Fiat and Swift handbooks both state over the max limit of tyres fitted. This states around what I thought | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 18:33 | |
| What do the handbooks and calculator give you? _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 19:18 | |
| 5.0 bar front and 5.5bar rear the tyres state 69psi max Not just me had problems but better to know correct pressure. | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 19:19 | |
| maybe they're not the original tyres? | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 19:52 | |
| - Techno100 wrote:
- KSH wrote:
- 70 in the front? now that I would say is too much
What does the calculator I posted say for your weights? 15" wheels on A class vans with drop down beds! I'll bet Mick has it right Just had a play about with figures in the calculator, and to get to 70 psi on the front, assuming they are 109 rated, the front axle would need to be at 1800kg _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 19:53 | |
| - SandJ wrote:
- 5.0 bar front and 5.5bar rear the tyres state 69psi max
Not just me had problems but better to know correct pressure. I didn't find Continental very informative, unlike Michelin and Pirelli who were both VERY helpful _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 19:54 | |
| I guess that is possible
Mine is 1920 at the front without a bed | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 19:59 | |
| - Techno100 wrote:
- I guess that is possible
Mine is 1920 at the front without a bed Geez, you'll need twins on soon _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 20:01 | |
| No I have 16" wheels and a limit of 2200kg on the front. 3 litre auto is a fair lump | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 20:16 | |
| - whistlinggypsy wrote:
- And I did not say she had that pressure I simply said 80 psi was to high for a m/h and I have 4 tyres on the rear
Bob, heres part of the email from Michelin - Quote :
- Dear Mr Hacking
Thank you for your enquiry about tyres for your motorhome.
The Michelin Agilis Camping tyre is designed especially for motorhomes and would be the preferred fitment as it has the capacity to take the higher pressure of 80psi. This is due to the construction of the tyre with 2 casing plies enabling the use of higher pressures. Its construction and the use of higher pressures is designed to cope with continual heavy loads sometimes found on Motorhomes and can help with wear pattern issues if lower pressures are used particularly on the rear axle. _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 20:26 | |
| I knew that, it says 80 psi on the tyre wall but you would only put 80 psi in if you were close to it's max payload. | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 20:38 | |
| - Techno100 wrote:
- maybe they're not the original tyres?
Brand new direct and not the only person asking it Ken This is handbook [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Page 8 1850kg front 2000kg rear Which should mean it can be uprated from 3500 but what extra is needed? | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 20:51 | |
| Just send SVTech an email or give them a call, they are very helpful, they will tell you straight away what is needed [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]_________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 21:54 | |
| - KSH wrote:
- Just send SVTech an email or give them a call, they are very helpful, they will tell you straight away what is needed
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I have already sent it Ken that is what I am awaiting a reply on | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 22:14 | |
| I was over there today, could have geed them up for ya :-) _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 22:15 | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 6:04 | |
| Ken, Andy I had a speedy reply and have sent off the forms should have reply soon. | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 10:03 | |
| Reply from Continental
Hello Steve based on the 215/70 R15CP 109R ContiVancoCamper and your axle weights the inflation pressures are:
Front: 4.25 Bar Rear: 5.5 bar
The 69 psi on the tyre is a marking for the North American market but in some circumstances the inflation pressure may be higher.
Ignore the pressures as that is not of concern
Now the final sentence does have me confused!!!! | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 10:05 | |
| That's another reason why I use Michelin lol | |
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BarbQ
Posts : 94 Join date : 2012-11-15 Age : 77
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 20:05 | |
| - Techno100 wrote:
- That's another reason why I use Michelin lol
Why. ..? Michelin are crap tyres for a m/h always have been always will be . | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 20:35 | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 21:08 | |
| - SandJ wrote:
- Reply from Continental
Hello Steve based on the 215/70 R15CP 109R ContiVancoCamper and your axle weights the inflation pressures are:
Front: 4.25 Bar Rear: 5.5 bar
The 69 psi on the tyre is a marking for the North American market but in some circumstances the inflation pressure may be higher.
Ignore the pressures as that is not of concern
Now the final sentence does have me confused!!!! It is the part in red that confuses me, I have re read my post and this should clarify which part worries me. Continental tyres I have used on numerous vehicles and have had good wear and mileage from them | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 21:10 | |
| Yes it confuses me too and I don't like ambiguity. Mine are rated to 80 psi all over the world and I've not had a problem of any kind and great mileage. Yes they're a few quid more but to just say they're rubbish is nonsense. | |
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Tugga
Posts : 871 Join date : 2012-11-15 Age : 30 Location : Bedfordshire
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 16:23 | |
| Steve, I don't know much about tyres and pressures but Northern America - isn't that Alaska et al? Perhaps the altitude has something to do with why they are rated at 69 psi | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 16:27 | |
| - Tugga wrote:
- Steve, I don't know much about tyres and pressures but Northern America - isn't that Alaska et al? Perhaps the altitude has something to do with why they are rated at 69 psi
Could be Cheryl but still confusing I have put the rear to 5.5bar 79psi as instructed by the experts. Airride fitted Tuesday so I wonder what the ride will be like then? | |
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Tugga
Posts : 871 Join date : 2012-11-15 Age : 30 Location : Bedfordshire
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 16:32 | |
| Lets hope its smoother Steve. | |
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mike 100
Posts : 1471 Join date : 2013-03-07 Age : 65 Location : in my van/or reading paper on lav
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 18:05 | |
| - SandJ wrote:
- Tugga wrote:
- Steve, I don't know much about tyres and pressures but Northern America - isn't that Alaska et al? Perhaps the altitude has something to do with why they are rated at 69 psi
Could be Cheryl but still confusing I have put the rear to 5.5bar 79psi as instructed by the experts.
Airride fitted Tuesday so I wonder what the ride will be like then? Had air ride fitted 2 years ago by as warrington best thing we have had fitted the ride is lot better no suspension banging when you hit bumps we had small compresor fited we can now lift each side helps with leveling a bit | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Tue 30 Apr 2013 - 14:38 | |
| Have you not heard owt yet Steve? They were very quick with mine _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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mike 100
Posts : 1471 Join date : 2013-03-07 Age : 65 Location : in my van/or reading paper on lav
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Tue 30 Apr 2013 - 16:09 | |
| Our van 3850 kg fully laden pay load 585 kg front axe 1850 kg rear 2120 on inners door post tyre presure 79psi front and rear have checked today as bean reding this tread and some would say this may be to high but as our van is close to max weight all the time they should be set at 79 psi as recomended by manafactor tyres 215 75 16c | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Tue 30 Apr 2013 - 19:39 | |
| - KSH wrote:
- Have you not heard owt yet Steve?
They were very quick with mine Not over weight adjust yet | |
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Techno100
Posts : 1738 Join date : 2012-11-15 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Tue 30 Apr 2013 - 19:40 | |
| Couple I sold ASH to had him down plated to 3500kg so his wife could drive it. What a waste | |
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Tue 30 Apr 2013 - 19:46 | |
| - Techno100 wrote:
- Couple I sold ASH to had him down plated to 3500kg so his wife could drive it.
What a waste I can see that happening a lot in a few years time, people just won't have the right license to drive them and will want vans 3500 and under, not everyone will want to go through another driving test _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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SandJ
Posts : 452 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Thu 2 May 2013 - 17:36 | |
| Well we can go to 3850 if we get Airride wich we have so all can be done. We can go higher on rear if we fit new tyres but does it justify the cost?
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KSH
Posts : 7154 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 62 Location : Wherever I park
| Subject: Re: 15" tyres Thu 2 May 2013 - 19:59 | |
| Better weighing the axles before you pay Steve, just to make sure you are Ok with the axle weights you have now. I could go to 2000kg with air ride fitted but I'd never get tyres for that without a lot of hassle so I just kept mine at 1900 _________________ Keeping Leapys boat sailing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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